I am very sorry to you folks for not getting back on the problems I am having to install on Debian testing. There are two reasons. One is that I have been much offline for personal reasons. The other is that I have another machine called tagol where I have been running Mailman3 for about three years, using the Debian packet on Debian testing. As testing move to 3.13 this installation could not run. I replaced mailman-core with a 3.12 venv install, but left the mailman3-web package of Debian. This half-arsed job held up for a long time but two weeks ago collapsed. No email went through. I have been trying to switch to a full venv version, still staying with 3.12.
Tagol hosts a single list
mailman@tagol:~$ mailman lists 1 matching mailing lists found: bibnez@folks.email
I have some bad queue files. Let's look at the oldest
mailman@tagol:~$ ls -lt /var/lib/mailman3/queue/bad/ | tail -1 -rw-rw---- 1 mailman mailman 8579 Mar 11 14:32 1773239548.2417333+451b61b8707218b4dc3d0864eb4ee0172bd21d71.psv
Write a script "test_bad" to submit this back.
mailman@tagol:~$ cat test_bad #!/bin/bash
base=/var/lib/mailman3/queue/bad/1773239548.2417333+451b61b8707218b4dc3d0864eb4ee0172bd21d71 psv=$base.psv pck=$base.pck
cp $psv $pck mailman unshunt mailman@tagol:~$
When I run this script, I get in my log
Mar 15 05:40:46 2026 (2658932) <a930211e778a4aa0829cee5b2a9e7db9@kbs-mg.de> runner "in" shunting message for missing list: <object object at 0x7fb1ad1ad730>
I suspect mailman does not see the database. But
mailman@tagol:~$ mailman info | grep -v credent GNU Mailman 3.3.10 (Tom Sawyer) Python 3.12.9 (main, Feb 5 2025, 01:31:18) [GCC 14.2.0] config file: /etc/mailman3/mailman.cfg db url: sqlite:////var/lib/mailman3/data/mailman.db devmode: DISABLED REST root url: http://localhost:8001/3.1/
The file exists
mailman@tagol:~$ ls -l /var/lib/mailman3/data/mailman.db -rw-rw---- 1 mailman mailman 4825088 Mar 15 05:20 /var/lib/mailman3/data/mailman.db
I have no idea where to look next.
Thanks and cheers!
-- Written by Thomas Krichel http://openlib.org/home/krichel on his 22199th day.